Forum V: Archive
Compiled: Fri, Jan 28, 2000 at 21:40:48 (GMT)
From: Jan 11, 2000 To: Jan 27, 2000 Page: 5 Of: 5


JW -:- Forum Admin: Why Am I Blocked -:- Tues, Jan 11, 2000 at 18:31:47 (GMT)
__ Forum Administrator -:- Forum Admin: Why Am I Blocked -:- Wed, Jan 12, 2000 at 15:11:46 (GMT)
__ Ben Lurking -:- Forum Admin: Why Am I Blocked -:- Tues, Jan 11, 2000 at 21:01:11 (GMT)
__ Susan -:- free JW! free JW! (nt) -:- Tues, Jan 11, 2000 at 19:23:51 (GMT)
__ __ larkin -:- Free JW! Get one today! -:- Wed, Jan 12, 2000 at 02:30:12 (GMT)
__ __ __ Christopher -:- ..what rhymes with orange?(nt) -:- Wed, Jan 12, 2000 at 18:39:27 (GMT)
__ __ __ __ corvuscorax -:- ..purple(nt) -:- Thurs, Jan 13, 2000 at 22:31:38 (GMT)
__ __ __ __ __ Robyn -:- ..purple(nt) -:- Thurs, Jan 13, 2000 at 22:52:04 (GMT)
__ __ __ __ __ __ corvuscorax -:- ..purple -:- Fri, Jan 14, 2000 at 15:28:07 (GMT)
__ __ __ __ __ __ __ Robyn -:- ..purple -:- Fri, Jan 14, 2000 at 15:44:01 (GMT)
__ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ corvuscorax -:- Mutual admiration society -:- Sat, Jan 15, 2000 at 13:18:53 (GMT)
__ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ Christopher -:- Wyatt Earp'll turn purple!(nt) -:- Sat, Jan 15, 2000 at 13:49:34 (GMT)
__ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ corvuscorax -:- When... -:- Sun, Jan 16, 2000 at 11:16:52 (GMT)
__ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ Christopher -:- McGonagill lives! But why?(nt) -:- Mon, Jan 17, 2000 at 14:01:58 (GMT)
__ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ corvuscorax -:- Hur a hur!!(nt) -:- Tues, Jan 18, 2000 at 00:48:44 (GMT)

Brian -:- Server Slowdowns -:- Tues, Jan 11, 2000 at 16:51:09 (GMT)
__ Selene not gone yet -:- Server Slowdowns -:- Tues, Jan 11, 2000 at 19:20:02 (GMT)
__ Robyn -:- cleaning -:- Tues, Jan 11, 2000 at 17:17:10 (GMT)
__ __ Des -:- spelling -:- Tues, Jan 11, 2000 at 17:47:27 (GMT)
__ __ __ Robyn -:- spelling -:- Tues, Jan 11, 2000 at 22:14:23 (GMT)
__ gerry -:- Try HenryMiller: Opus Pistorum -:- Tues, Jan 11, 2000 at 17:15:41 (GMT)
__ __ The Postmistress -:- What Did He Say? -:- Wed, Jan 12, 2000 at 12:17:36 (GMT)


Date: Tues, Jan 11, 2000 at 18:31:47 (GMT)
From: JW
Email: None
To: Everyone
Subject: Forum Admin: Why Am I Blocked
Message:
I sent you an email about this, whoever you are, and I am still blocked. [I'm on a different computer at the moment, so I assume that's why I can post.] I also emailed Brian who gave me some explanation and forwarded my email to you.

From what I gather, for some reason you decided to block some poster or another, and, unfortunately, he or she has the same ISP as me (AOL, I think soon to be about the largest corporation in the world, I think, so presumably that could block LOTS of people), and so I get booted as well. I think this is cumbersome and dumb.

I think people who have been around for awhile know my opinion on this, but this is another reason for feeling the way I do. I don't think people should be blocked except for the most serious of reasons, like they are hacking the site or something, or somebody's life is in danger. And I don't think we should have censorship on this site either, except for the blantant threats, etc., that we all agree on. I don't think we gain much by keeping people we don't like off the forum, and it causes messes like the one I am currently in.

I believe in the idea that you might have to put up with some people saying things you don't like, but the alternative, stiffling free speech, is much worse. I also think we lose some or our moral high ground over the premie/Maharaji websites, which are completely censored and don't even allow open discussion at all, due to cult paranoia, when we limit free speech here. The fact that premies come here and say some of the inane stuff they do is because they don't have that right in their cult. Plus, I think premiespeak is instructive, although it does get tedious after awhile.

Okay, that's my opinion, but whether you agree with it or not, may I please be UNBLOCKED?

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Date: Wed, Jan 12, 2000 at 15:11:46 (GMT)
From: Forum Administrator
Email: None
To: JW
Subject: Forum Admin: Why Am I Blocked
Message:
JW

We apologise for the inconvenience caused to you, and a couple of others, by our blocking.

We try maintain an atmosphere of freedom of expression here. We also want it to be an atmosphere free of intimidation.

Our approach to offensive, or threatening posts, is to delete them. If someone persists in posting this type of message. We block them.

Unfortunately, as you realise, this means everyone from the same ISP is blocked. Our way around this at the moment, is to give other subscribers passwords.

Nusiance posters usually to give up trying to post after a while. (Some persistant offenders change ISPs) So we'll remove the block at some point, and you won't need the password again.

If the system doesn't work, we'll try and come up with something better.

Again, apologies for the inconvenience.

Forum Administrator.

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Date: Tues, Jan 11, 2000 at 21:01:11 (GMT)
From: Ben Lurking
Email: None
To: JW
Subject: Forum Admin: Why Am I Blocked
Message:
Well its not all of AOL, its one node or area, I also happen to be in the same area. Its not blocking per se, but rather password protecting, just ask for a password thats what I did although I am coming in from work which isn't blocked. Shows to go some of the creeps live near us!
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Date: Tues, Jan 11, 2000 at 19:23:51 (GMT)
From: Susan
Email: None
To: JW
Subject: free JW! free JW! (nt)
Message:
nt
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Date: Wed, Jan 12, 2000 at 02:30:12 (GMT)
From: larkin
Email: larkin@redcrow.demon.co.uk
To: Susan
Subject: Free JW! Get one today!
Message:
Dear Forum Admin
I don't wish to trouble you
but kindly unlock
and unblock our JW!

He ain't done no hacking
nor nuffing to muddle you
no death threats nor flaming
please unblock JW!

He'd never confound or
confuse or befuddle you
so kindly unlock and
unblock our JW!

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Date: Wed, Jan 12, 2000 at 18:39:27 (GMT)
From: Christopher
Email: None
To: larkin
Subject: ..what rhymes with orange?(nt)
Message:
nt
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Date: Thurs, Jan 13, 2000 at 22:31:38 (GMT)
From: corvuscorax
Email: None
To: Christopher
Subject: ..purple(nt)
Message:
nt
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Date: Thurs, Jan 13, 2000 at 22:52:04 (GMT)
From: Robyn
Email: None
To: corvuscorax
Subject: ..purple(nt)
Message:
Dear Bruce,
Orange/purple!?
Have you just come off the porch after using part of the chair there? :)
Love,
Robyn
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Date: Fri, Jan 14, 2000 at 15:28:07 (GMT)
From: corvuscorax
Email: None
To: Robyn
Subject: ..purple
Message:
Nope, I just read somewhere that, there are four words in English for which there are no rhymes. I think orange was one? Definately, 'purple' was another. As for grass, i only use when offered, these days. To many other nice things to be interested in.

Pass the munchies
Jamie
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Date: Fri, Jan 14, 2000 at 15:44:01 (GMT)
From: Robyn
Email: None
To: corvuscorax
Subject: ..purple
Message:
Dear Jamie,
I think you said maybe someday you'd explain corvuscorax, not rushing you but got to smiling thinking it was your nick name in highschool! :)
Well, thanks for the info, I'll stop trying to think of a word to rythm with orange! :)
Just teasing about the pot chair, of course. I am pretty sporatic with my use of the same, only having my own for holidays, of which the season of summer is one for me. :)
Love,
Robyn
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Date: Sat, Jan 15, 2000 at 13:18:53 (GMT)
From: corvuscorax
Email: None
To: Robyn
Subject: Mutual admiration society
Message:
Luv ya' too, babe!!

Later
Jamie
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Date: Sat, Jan 15, 2000 at 13:49:34 (GMT)
From: Christopher
Email: None
To: corvuscorax
Subject: Wyatt Earp'll turn purple!(nt)
Message:
nt
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Date: Sun, Jan 16, 2000 at 11:16:52 (GMT)
From: corvuscorax
Email: None
To: Christopher
Subject: When...
Message:
home o' the range.

Strange phlange at the grange,
might give a dog mange tho,
never a whinge when Earp'll
be in the purplest sage.

Sorry, just had to do it!
Jamie
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Date: Mon, Jan 17, 2000 at 14:01:58 (GMT)
From: Christopher
Email: None
To: corvuscorax
Subject: McGonagill lives! But why?(nt)
Message:
nt
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Date: Tues, Jan 18, 2000 at 00:48:44 (GMT)
From: corvuscorax
Email: None
To: Christopher
Subject: Hur a hur!!(nt)
Message:
nt
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Date: Tues, Jan 11, 2000 at 16:51:09 (GMT)
From: Brian
Email: brian@tigerriver.com
To: Everyone
Subject: Server Slowdowns
Message:
I spoke with tech support this morning regarding the recent extremely long delays in loading both the forum and site pages. I have also been having problems with email and ftp access, so I knew it was more than just the forum scripts causing some problem. Luckily, I got ahold of someone who gave me honest answers rather than the 'party line'.

I was aware that the host company providing the server was recently bought by a large corporation, but I hadn't seen anything change as a result of the acquisition.

However, the server is now being moved from its current site to the corporate site. In the process, various portions of it will be located in two places, and linked by the internet. So what used to be a local network request between computers sitting next to each other, is now being delayed by having to route the requests back and forth via the internet.

The move should be completed within the next couple of weeks (I'm padding this for my protection) and then we should actually see an improvement in load times due to the forum running on a better and faster network than we've had in the past.

Meanwhile, keep a good book next to your keyboard...

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Date: Tues, Jan 11, 2000 at 19:20:02 (GMT)
From: Selene not gone yet
Email: None
To: Brian
Subject: Server Slowdowns
Message:
You should SEE how badly my campus wide conferencing system upgrade
is going. Just got notification they sent us a limited license
instead of the one we bought. Which means, if it isn't resolved we will have downtime campus-wide in 8 days.
It's part of the process. I know this and others in the industry know..
shit happens. The accusations flying at you are just personal.
The software has to work out it's glitches and I know you will get it straight with your server people. I wish both of us could buy our own T whatever connections and kickass servers. But life doesn't work that way.
You'll work it out. I am not jumping to conclsions. or accusing you.
Now, gotta go and see what sales has for a story this time!
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Date: Tues, Jan 11, 2000 at 17:17:10 (GMT)
From: Robyn
Email: your know
To: Brian
Subject: cleaning
Message:
Dear Brian,
I think it was on AG but someone said, in humor, their hubby loved f5 because now they get their cleaning etc done! :) Well I really did do that yesterday and it worked great!!! :)
Thanks for the explination. I wouldn't have thought it was that because AG was really slow too. What the hay do I know, at least my house is clean. :)
Love,
Robyn
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Date: Tues, Jan 11, 2000 at 17:47:27 (GMT)
From: Des
Email: wyltk
To: Robyn
Subject: spelling
Message:
Good morning dear,

Tried to email you but you have seemed to have left the wrong address. Typo?

Hane a nice afternoon, Des

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Date: Tues, Jan 11, 2000 at 22:14:23 (GMT)
From: Robyn
Email: None
To: Des
Subject: spelling
Message:
Dear Des,
You must be teasing me. Did you really think that was my email? Silly, silly man. :)

sundogs@hotmail.com

That is it for real. :)
Love,
Robyn

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Date: Tues, Jan 11, 2000 at 17:15:41 (GMT)
From: gerry
Email: None
To: Brian
Subject: Try HenryMiller: Opus Pistorum
Message:
Meanwhile, keep a good book next to your keyboard...

I especially like the scene with the midget lady and the german shepherd...

Brian: Here's some things I liked about Paradise and miss having here:

The ability to edit the post even after you've posted it. Paradise gives us an opportunity to edit up to an hour later or so (I never timed it)(TM) I really liked that.

In Paradise, you can see the whole thread and chose (or not) to read any post in the thread without going to another screen. Being lazier than hound in summer I like that one a lot, too.

Also I like a longer box for the Subject. This one really is way too short.

Plus, It's been slower than dirt but I guess we now know why.

One (unsolicited and too public) (TM) tip: Ask your clients (us in this case, even though I know we are not paying customers but that shouldn't make any difference.com) what they want, like, need and what would be the fantasy dream ability the application could do for them. Then you can incorporate these features into the whole design of the app in the beginning (to be said like Mahatma Rajeswar : In the BEG-inning wuz thee word...)

Gerry the built one app in Access now he's an expert.com (TM)

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Date: Wed, Jan 12, 2000 at 12:17:36 (GMT)
From: The Postmistress
Email: None
To: gerry
Subject: What Did He Say?
Message:
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