Ex-Premie Forum 7 Archive
From: Oct 31, 2001 To: Nov 07, 2001 Page: 3 of: 5


Salam -:- Dear guru Maharaj Ji -:- Mon, Nov 05, 2001 at 02:25:13 (EST)
__ Deborah -:- See, was that so hard -:- Mon, Nov 05, 2001 at 16:22:58 (EST)
__ **** -:- Re: Dear guru Maharaj Ji -:- Mon, Nov 05, 2001 at 15:44:14 (EST)
__ Barry -:- Good one Salam! -:- Mon, Nov 05, 2001 at 11:11:16 (EST)
__ Mummiji -:- You know ... -:- Mon, Nov 05, 2001 at 06:16:22 (EST)
__ Nottingham Mole -:- Be careful what you wish for.......... -:- Mon, Nov 05, 2001 at 05:10:50 (EST)
__ Pat:C) -:- I wish people wouldn't say..... -:- Mon, Nov 05, 2001 at 03:54:07 (EST)

Deborah -:- Gerry! Do I gather that SC/CW is banned??? -:- Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 23:47:48 (EST)
__ SC -:- Do I gather that Deborah -:- Mon, Nov 05, 2001 at 04:50:55 (EST)
__ __ Deborah -:- Re: Do I gather that Deborah -:- Mon, Nov 05, 2001 at 16:04:37 (EST)
__ __ Jim -:- You don't know what dignity is -:- Mon, Nov 05, 2001 at 12:11:39 (EST)
__ __ __ SC -:- You're afraid? No! -:- Mon, Nov 05, 2001 at 21:06:45 (EST)
__ __ __ __ JohnT -:- You're afraid, David -:- Tues, Nov 06, 2001 at 04:52:17 (EST)
__ __ __ __ __ SC -:- Stop following me around you creepy worm -:- Tues, Nov 06, 2001 at 11:29:35 (EST)
__ __ __ __ __ __ Jim -:- Get lost, Roupell -:- Tues, Nov 06, 2001 at 11:48:53 (EST)
__ __ __ __ __ __ __ SC -:- You mean follow you Heller? -:- Wed, Nov 07, 2001 at 01:44:21 (EST)
__ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ Jim -:- Gerry, can you get rid of this garbage? -:- Wed, Nov 07, 2001 at 02:12:37 (EST)
__ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ Sicko Cacweasel -:- Come on Jim canan you read Jim?? -:- Wed, Nov 07, 2001 at 03:21:37 (EST)
__ __ Pat:C) -:- Well, I'll miss you, David -:- Mon, Nov 05, 2001 at 05:00:01 (EST)
__ __ __ salsa -:- nicely said -:- Mon, Nov 05, 2001 at 10:30:01 (EST)

Barry -:- Interesting view point? -:- Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 19:10:21 (EST)
__ Deborah -:- Re: Interesting view point? -:- Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 19:53:39 (EST)

gerry -:- oh look! another CAC attack, charming -:- Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 19:05:29 (EST)
__ Joy -:- Darn! I didn't make the list either -:- Mon, Nov 05, 2001 at 05:57:50 (EST)
__ __ Nigel -:- Joy, uou realise the finger of suspicion.. -:- Mon, Nov 05, 2001 at 09:53:06 (EST)
__ __ __ Richard -:- Right you are, Nigel -:- Mon, Nov 05, 2001 at 16:13:01 (EST)
__ JohnT -:- OOOOH! I made it! -:- Mon, Nov 05, 2001 at 04:43:01 (EST)
__ __ Mickey the Pharisee -:- Re: OOOOH! I made it! -:- Mon, Nov 05, 2001 at 08:35:47 (EST)
__ __ __ Brian Smith -:- Maybe I will make the grade ! -:- Mon, Nov 05, 2001 at 18:32:24 (EST)
__ __ __ Francesca -:- SPOT on, Mickey and Nige -:- Mon, Nov 05, 2001 at 15:44:48 (EST)
__ __ __ Katie -:- I was wondering how you got there, Mickey! [nt] -:- Mon, Nov 05, 2001 at 08:43:46 (EST)
__ __ __ __ Mickey the Pharisee -:- That site has the stink of Lutefisk! [nt] -:- Mon, Nov 05, 2001 at 13:24:01 (EST)
__ __ __ __ __ Nigel -:- What the hell's a 'Lutefisk!'? [nt] -:- Mon, Nov 05, 2001 at 15:20:35 (EST)
__ __ __ __ __ __ Mickey the Pharisee -:- Re: What the hell's a 'Lutefisk!'? -:- Mon, Nov 05, 2001 at 16:11:47 (EST)
__ __ __ __ __ __ __ Katie -:- Unfair to Lutefisk -:- Mon, Nov 05, 2001 at 18:45:45 (EST)
__ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ Mickey the Pharisee -:- It is a nasty food... -:- Mon, Nov 05, 2001 at 20:21:24 (EST)
__ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ Katie -:- OK, I agree about that :) -:- Tues, Nov 06, 2001 at 08:32:52 (EST)
__ salsa -:- Oh, I get it now -:- Mon, Nov 05, 2001 at 03:40:39 (EST)
__ michael donner -:- Re: oh look! another CAC attack, charming -:- Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 23:40:25 (EST)
__ __ Brian Smith -:- Both you and Dettmers -:- Mon, Nov 05, 2001 at 20:03:15 (EST)
__ Fred Newman -:- I thought the Majahara might be a good thing -:- Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 22:44:30 (EST)
__ __ Helen Vital -:- Are you for real? -:- Mon, Nov 05, 2001 at 15:12:08 (EST)
__ __ __ Fred Newman -:- Why are we here?? -:- Mon, Nov 05, 2001 at 21:21:18 (EST)
__ __ Barry -:- Re: I thought you might be a good thing -:- Mon, Nov 05, 2001 at 01:20:15 (EST)
__ __ michael donner -:- Re: I thought the Majahara might be a good thing -:- Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 23:46:31 (EST)
__ __ __ Pat:C) -:- Great response. Thanks MikeD. -:- Mon, Nov 05, 2001 at 03:20:32 (EST)
__ __ __ Richard -:- Right on Donner and welcome to newcomers -:- Mon, Nov 05, 2001 at 00:28:11 (EST)
__ __ __ __ Pat:C) -:- But isn't EPO satsang - the truth? -:- Mon, Nov 05, 2001 at 03:33:20 (EST)
__ __ __ __ __ FYI -:- EPO and FBI links -:- Mon, Nov 05, 2001 at 04:02:57 (EST)
__ __ __ __ __ __ Deborah -:- Re: EPO and FBI links -:- Mon, Nov 05, 2001 at 17:09:33 (EST)
__ __ __ __ __ __ __ Cynthia -:- Hi Deborah.... -:- Tues, Nov 06, 2001 at 10:38:37 (EST)
__ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ Deborah -:- Re: Hi Cynthia.... -:- Tues, Nov 06, 2001 at 19:41:47 (EST)
__ __ __ Deborah -:- Good on you Mike -:- Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 23:56:42 (EST)
__ __ Deborah -:- Oh really now! -:- Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 23:33:47 (EST)
__ Richard -:- Don't tell them they're not free -:- Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 22:15:53 (EST)
__ stonor -:- Re: oh look! another site -:- Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 22:08:02 (EST)
__ __ Stonor -:- 4 independent hate sites. (nt) -:- Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 22:29:15 (EST)
__ __ __ Deborah -:- Good work -:- Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 23:42:11 (EST)
__ __ __ __ Stonor -:- CAC didn't come up ... -:- Mon, Nov 05, 2001 at 06:40:45 (EST)
__ G -:- another CAC attack -:- Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 21:16:58 (EST)
__ __ gerry -:- Oh i know -:- Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 21:30:39 (EST)
__ __ __ Deborah -:- Re: Oh i know -:- Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 21:39:43 (EST)
__ __ Deborah -:- O course it's premies -:- Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 21:25:01 (EST)
__ Zelda -:- Re: oh look! Bjorn grammar -:- Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 20:35:05 (EST)
__ __ Deborah -:- Re: oh look! Bjorn grammar -:- Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 21:01:29 (EST)
__ __ __ Nigel -:- **** is ****... -:- Mon, Nov 05, 2001 at 12:09:50 (EST)
__ __ __ __ Deborah -:- Thanks Nige -:- Mon, Nov 05, 2001 at 16:10:43 (EST)
__ __ __ Zelda -:- Re: oh look! Bjorn grammar -:- Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 22:34:05 (EST)
__ JHB -:- CAC is back as well -:- Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 20:15:56 (EST)
__ __ bill -:- JHB comments on mitch ditkoff -:- Mon, Nov 05, 2001 at 06:03:58 (EST)
__ __ JHB -:- CAC aka SOS is also here -:- Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 20:20:44 (EST)
__ __ __ salsa -:- CAC is back?????? NT -:- Mon, Nov 05, 2001 at 03:48:37 (EST)
__ JHB -:- From San Antonio -:- Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 20:12:15 (EST)
__ Pat:C) -:- Re: oh look! another CAC attack, charming -:- Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 20:06:13 (EST)
__ Suedoula -:- Re: oh look! another CAC attack, charming -:- Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 20:05:21 (EST)
__ __ Pat:C) -:- They think it's funny, Sue -:- Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 20:09:51 (EST)
__ __ __ Suedoula -:- I think it's sad and scary -:- Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 21:44:40 (EST)
__ __ __ Deborah -:- I know what would be funny, Pat -:- Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 21:14:17 (EST)
__ Deborah -:- Re: oh look! another CAC attack, charming -:- Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 19:57:54 (EST)
__ Barry -:- I love the stupid log on shit? -:- Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 19:33:18 (EST)
__ JHB -:- This must be an ex-premie site -:- Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 19:32:07 (EST)
__ __ Barry -:- Re: This must be an ex-premie site -:- Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 19:34:08 (EST)
__ Pat:C) -:- I guess the Cultweasels and Cacroaches... -:- Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 19:29:38 (EST)
__ gerry -:- There's more... -:- Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 19:17:45 (EST)
__ __ Informed outside observer -:- I'm not laughing my ass off ... -:- Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 19:26:59 (EST)
__ __ Barry -:- Hey! shut up BOY! -:- Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 19:21:48 (EST)
__ Barry -:- Damit! When am I gonna make the list!! -:- Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 19:16:15 (EST)
__ __ Barry -:- Why does Heller make the top of the list? -:- Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 19:19:45 (EST)
__ __ __ gerry -:- Re: Why does Heller make the top of the list? -:- Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 19:30:19 (EST)
__ __ __ __ Barry -:- Ya your right, gotta pay my dues... -:- Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 19:36:29 (EST)
__ __ __ __ __ JohnT -:- Whatcha gotta do -:- Mon, Nov 05, 2001 at 07:24:00 (EST)
__ __ __ __ __ Zelda -:- Why dont they list bjorns rumor? [nt] -:- Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 20:39:59 (EST)

Barry -:- Also.... -:- Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 18:58:34 (EST)
__ Deborah -:- Re: Also.... -:- Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 20:04:41 (EST)

Barry -:- Guess what kids? -:- Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 18:53:56 (EST)
__ salsa -:- ROFL -:- Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 22:44:01 (EST)
__ __ Deborah -:- Hey, email me :) [nt] -:- Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 23:37:46 (EST)

From LG -:- Ohhhhh gossip -:- Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 16:11:42 (EST)
__ bill -:- although he pales by comparison..... -:- Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 16:24:56 (EST)
__ Deborah -:- No Bjorn posts allowed -:- Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 16:15:10 (EST)
__ __ DV -:- Re: No Bjorn posts allowed -:- Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 19:31:02 (EST)
__ __ __ Deborah -:- Yup, I remember you -:- Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 20:07:36 (EST)
__ __ __ __ DV -:- Awriite! Me contact SOON! -:- Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 21:58:26 (EST)
__ __ __ __ __ Deborah -:- Right on!!!!! [nt] -:- Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 23:39:17 (EST)
__ __ Zelda -:- WHAAT!!! Well I NEVER! -:- Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 17:09:57 (EST)
__ __ __ Marianne -:- No Zelda, no way -:- Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 17:13:47 (EST)
__ __ __ __ Deborah -:- Marianne, think it was sarcasm [nt] -:- Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 18:24:31 (EST)
__ __ __ __ Stonor -:- Will do, Marianne ... -:- Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 17:39:25 (EST)
__ __ __ __ __ JHB -:- Forum Donation Facility -:- Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 18:39:44 (EST)
__ __ __ __ __ __ Stonor -:- Thanks for the clarification, but ... -:- Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 19:07:16 (EST)
__ __ __ __ __ __ __ JHB -:- Re: Thanks for the clarification, but ... -:- Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 20:09:11 (EST)
__ __ __ __ __ Marianne -:- Hey there Stonor -:- Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 17:43:33 (EST)
__ __ __ __ __ __ Stonor -:- Hey there Marianne! -:- Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 17:50:26 (EST)

**** again -:- Ashram -:- Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 14:06:13 (EST)
__ **** 123 -:- Re: Ashram -:- Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 15:24:24 (EST)
__ Tim G -:- Re: YES! -:- Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 14:31:43 (EST)
__ __ Deborah -:- Ha ha ha ha ha ha }) -:- Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 15:35:07 (EST)
__ __ __ Barry -:- Oh! I see!........ -:- Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 19:02:00 (EST)

Hey PCT - -:- Question for Ditkoff, Apnor, & Pals -:- Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 01:53:24 (EST)
__ Pat:C) -:- Is Idea Champions........ -:- Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 03:32:13 (EST)

Silvia -:- What about Holi? -:- Sat, Nov 03, 2001 at 23:36:16 (EST)
__ Deborah -:- Re: What about Holi? -:- Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 02:44:57 (EST)


Date: Mon, Nov 05, 2001 at 02:25:13 (EST)
From: Salam
Email: None
To: All
Subject: Dear guru Maharaj Ji
Message:
I promised myself neigther to be on this forum nor to have anything to do with you anymore [just reading your name sends me to sleep].

The reason I'm here however is because some friends of mine told me about your new ventures.

Well I haven't seen your ventures and I don't intend to. But I do want to say for the last time that maybe for once in your life; you and your honchos stop being the cock suckers that you are and stand up for what you believe in. If you think that you can intimidate me by publishing crap and then hide behind a cardboard facade, you really don't understand where I come from.

My advice to you in such circumstances is that you consider the legal consequences of your actions and the damage it causing both to your already shaky organization and to the individuals that will be effected or are already effected by it.

As a Perfect Master [am only kidding, don't believe it] I take notice that the last thing you want to know about is the truth. Seeing that you are having comprehension troubles let me put it for you in broad terms [the dummies way].

Your movement and the cult that you have created are on its last leg. This stunt is the last. You can only squeeze that much out of a mule before you can kill it.

You can recruit as many morons as you want and publish a thousand web sites on the net, but you can spray only that much deodorant before one will smell the stink.

EPO, F7, IT IS SO, AG, Roger's and others exist as long as you do.

Why don't you direct your visitors to your critics?

The answer is plain simple, you are a liar, a fraud and scared shit of the ex-premies and by god I love it.

Kick and scream as much as you want, but you know that your cult's time is over, everyone knows this, finally, this is my salute to you, a big

FUCK YOU UNTIL ETERNITY

.

Your ex-follower Salam Al-Ahmar [now that how you write it]

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Date: Mon, Nov 05, 2001 at 16:22:58 (EST)
From: Deborah
Email: None
To: Salam
Subject: See, was that so hard
Message:
Everyone, now. Say something really REPULSIVE to the BigHead.

Trust me, it's good fun for ex-cultists.

And Barry, Anna, and JohnT like it too.

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Date: Mon, Nov 05, 2001 at 15:44:14 (EST)
From: ****
Email: None
To: Salam
Subject: Re: Dear guru Maharaj Ji
Message:
M. will not read your message. To whom did you write? Put a mirror in front of a monkey and he will think there's another monkey.
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Date: Mon, Nov 05, 2001 at 11:11:16 (EST)
From: Barry
Email: None
To: Salam
Subject: Good one Salam!
Message:
Nicely put my man!
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Date: Mon, Nov 05, 2001 at 06:16:22 (EST)
From: Mummiji
Email: None
To: Salam
Subject: You know ...
Message:
I think the Marshmallow kid sucks as much as you do, dear, but that's no excuse for swearing! Why not write the good old fashioned expression, 'Damn you until eternity'? He already is, you know ... that's why he has chosen his current 'life style'. He's fiddling while his soul burns. And Nottingham Mole is right ... you don't want to 'Fuck him until eternity,' dear. He fucks himself far better than anyone else possibly could! :)

Lovijis and hugsijis,

Your proud Mummiji without soap or wooden spoon.

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Date: Mon, Nov 05, 2001 at 05:10:50 (EST)
From: Nottingham Mole
Email: None
To: Salam
Subject: Be careful what you wish for..........
Message:
Salam,

You don't really want to fuck Maharaji till eternity, now do you?!?

Regards,

NM

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Date: Mon, Nov 05, 2001 at 03:54:07 (EST)
From: Pat:C)
Email: None
To: Salam
Subject: I wish people wouldn't say.....
Message:
....that they are leaving the forum because everytime one of us does the Cacroaches come running out again. Last time it was my fault because I said I was leaving and then the CAC shit hit the fan. Now this happens after you announce that you're leaving. It's your fault this time. ;)
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Date: Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 23:47:48 (EST)
From: Deborah
Email: None
To: All
Subject: Gerry! Do I gather that SC/CW is banned???
Message:
Ha ha ha ha ha ! What a sorry couple these guys are going to be. BigHEad is going to have a BigHead ache on his shoulders.

Aww! too bad,YOU still think that you're omniscient MahaFuckForBrains?

Gee, we knew you were just kidding?

We just went along with it! Really!!!!!!!!!!

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Date: Mon, Nov 05, 2001 at 04:50:55 (EST)
From: SC
Email: None
To: Deborah
Subject: Do I gather that Deborah
Message:
has reverted back to the nonsensical hateloop vomitosis she entered this party spewing several months ago?

Luckily that ain't my worry no more...

I'm done folks...time to leave you with the likes of Ms Rose's inspiring wisdom... to deal with any way you can...

Cheers to you guys with the dignity and thanks gerry and pat for allowing us to stay thus far. I know when my luck's out though.

SC - slinking despondently off into the darkness with droopy tail flopping uselessly between his wobbly aching legs... :(

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Date: Mon, Nov 05, 2001 at 16:04:37 (EST)
From: Deborah
Email: None
To: SC
Subject: Re: Do I gather that Deborah
Message:
SC - slinking despondently off into the darkness with droopy tail flopping uselessly between his wobbly aching legs...

Oh, is that what that was, we all took a bet, and thought it was your pet weasel. Thanks for setting us straight.

It's been real

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Date: Mon, Nov 05, 2001 at 12:11:39 (EST)
From: Jim
Email: None
To: SC
Subject: You don't know what dignity is
Message:
SC,

I'm afraid dignity is just a far-off concept for you. You've never demonstrated otherwise. Your multi-alias foolishness here was anything but dignified. Anyway, glad you're leaving. On the other hand, I don't trust anything you say.

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Date: Mon, Nov 05, 2001 at 21:06:45 (EST)
From: SC
Email: None
To: Jim
Subject: You're afraid? No!
Message:
Good choice of words Jim.

Don't worry, you don't have to trust a sledge hammer, really, you don't.

Anything but...?

On the other hand...?

These are phrases from the pen of a writer who isn't at all sure what they're saying. You don't know whether to love or hate because in you heart know you I have been speak truth to you at all time honest but sometime you misstoodunder.

Hey, I think I'm being bjorn again!

SC - who has just put some new Corum Savarez classical strings on the old guitar and Jim thinks I'm gonna spend my time here?

...sheesh, the logic, the logic, it kills me. I can only conclude that you must play music entirely with your mind, oh god, oh dear god what is happening to your sweet sweet creation?

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Date: Tues, Nov 06, 2001 at 04:52:17 (EST)
From: JohnT
Email: None
To: SC
Subject: You're afraid, David
Message:
Of course, you are a very creative sort of chap, aren't you, David?
I suppose you consider yourself creative for your nasty multiple deceits?

Your most despicable stunts have not been just the savage attacks on women recovering from the abuses inflicted by Your Master's Cult. No, it is the way that you exploited people's kindness towards the vulnerable. In public and in private you have posed as vulnerable women to spread your poison, have you not?

How many times was it again that you have pretended to be someone else here? And how many times in private emails to ex-premies?

Oh! And why should anyone believe a known fantasist like yourself anyway?

See your problem, David? By being anybody you have become nobody.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

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Date: Tues, Nov 06, 2001 at 11:29:35 (EST)
From: SC
Email: None
To: JohnT
Subject: Stop following me around you creepy worm
Message:
.
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Date: Tues, Nov 06, 2001 at 11:48:53 (EST)
From: Jim
Email: None
To: SC
Subject: Get lost, Roupell
Message:
Listen, David, you're completely unwelcome here. You're extremely duplicitous and untrustworthy, everyone can see that. Why don't you stay over on LG where you belong? I'm sure there are lots and lots of people there that want to hear all about how Great your Life is. No one here does.
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Date: Wed, Nov 07, 2001 at 01:44:21 (EST)
From: SC
Email: None
To: Jim
Subject: You mean follow you Heller?
Message:
I'd rather turn into a Moonie mate.

and pal, listen up.. me (and the lurkers) are far more interested in

HOW FUCKING TRAGIC YOUR LIFE IS

:: Paragraph deleted for compassionate reasons ::

Unlike you Jimbo I am not an incompetent computer user and have the freedom to leave here when I want, not when you want. capiche? However, if I become a permanent and provocative endless thread posting menace (LIKE YOU ON LG) then I would expect gerry to take appropriate action. Until then....you just keep supporting dfisgusting cyberstalking creeps like John Never been alive Tucker who is following me around this forum like a rabid terrier snapping at my heels. What a great life!

Any more lip from you jimbo and cat and I will fry your balls for breakfast. There's a reason we're allowing you to roam around pissing on every lamp post relatively freely at this time. Don't even think about it, too subtle.

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Date: Wed, Nov 07, 2001 at 02:12:37 (EST)
From: Jim
Email: None
To: SC
Subject: Gerry, can you get rid of this garbage?
Message:
Gerry,

Is it possible to get rid of this poor, confused fool? He's got nothing to say and isn't taking the last days of his cult that well. I'm sick of reading him and his threats are so boring. Can you do it?

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Date: Wed, Nov 07, 2001 at 03:21:37 (EST)
From: Sicko Cacweasel
Email: None
To: Jim
Subject: Come on Jim canan you read Jim??
Message:
Here it is again...

I am not an incompetent computer user and have the freedom to leave here when I want, not when you want.
gerry's banning of me will merely be another opportunity for me to show off. What if I use my turboweb account and he blocks that? The very (only) branch the mob is currently feeding from!

Now, you wouldn't want that would you? he he :)

By the way, you missed the last days of the cult because you were so busy creating your own. Seriously.

SCerise - who makes the great forum legend Rob look like a complete amateur.

and is leaving because she can't stand any more filthy lies and insults from people with much less integrity than Jim

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Date: Mon, Nov 05, 2001 at 05:00:01 (EST)
From: Pat:C)
Email: None
To: SC
Subject: Well, I'll miss you, David
Message:
You were such a good advertisement for how to be a real crazy culthead. I always believed that banning you would be the worst thing we could do. If I believed in conspiracy theories I would swear to it that you were the satirical figment of an ex-premie's imagination designed to show how sick, twisted and deceitful cultheads are. Thanks for the good job you did of putting decent people right off your creepy master.
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Date: Mon, Nov 05, 2001 at 10:30:01 (EST)
From: salsa
Email: None
To: Pat:C)
Subject: nicely said
Message:
You are right. Premies alike are such a good advertisemnet for maharaji, but you have to recognize that sometimes their buzzing gets heavy enough to wish not to see them again.

Maybe we can learn to live with them so ordinary people can see the 'grace' of 'his' premies. I agree. So far SC is the best. ())

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Date: Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 19:10:21 (EST)
From: Barry
Email: None
To: All
Subject: Interesting view point?
Message:
Caged animals?
[ http://www.rickross.com/reference/jonestown/jonestown10.html ]
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Date: Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 19:53:39 (EST)
From: Deborah
Email: None
To: Barry
Subject: Re: Interesting view point?
Message:
Interesting that Deborah Layton said it took her 20 yrs. to sort out her life. That my friend, is the reason why the lot of us are here.

it is not like, 'Gee, I could have had a V8'. Good post

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Date: Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 19:05:29 (EST)
From: gerry
Email: None
To: All
Subject: oh look! another CAC attack, charming
Message:
Well, the experts told us to expect just this. But not to worry. Auntie Marianne is looking after things.
[ Don't step in the dogpile, dearies... ]
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Date: Mon, Nov 05, 2001 at 05:57:50 (EST)
From: Joy
Email: joyfenwick@onetel.net.uk
To: gerry
Subject: Darn! I didn't make the list either
Message:
I know I don't post here much anymore, but I would have been proud to be associated with the people on that list, the four of five of whom I know personally to be some of the most loving, socially responsible people I've ever met. Perhaps as my occupation they could have put student -- (finally working on the college degree she never got while wasting her 20s in service to the Guru).

The only thing I can unequivocally state that the people on that list (and myself) hate is bullshit and spiritual con games. And I also think that whoever put that page up did a better job of advertising EPO to the world than we could have -- thanks guys! To anybody who's curious, go check out Ex-premie.org and find out what Maharaji and his bullshit are really all about, try and think about it all critically and with an open mind.

Love to all (not hate),
Joy

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Date: Mon, Nov 05, 2001 at 09:53:06 (EST)
From: Nigel
Email: nigel@redcrow.demon.co.uk
To: Joy
Subject: Joy, uou realise the finger of suspicion..
Message:
...is gonna point straight at you. You really should have included yourself in the list when you set up that CAC site...;)

Actually, the same could be said for me. Still no glory for yours truly despite all my best efforts. I am truly gutted. And I am astonished that some of us long-timers from the forum have been neglected here in favour of some who haven't even been around for a year or more, or who never posted very much in the first place.

The very eccentricity in the choice of some of these names suggests to me a personal dimension - people the perpetrator possibly had dealings with during their time in the cult, or possibly with exes who have challenged or upset them when they posted on the forum. (It seems unthinkable that the CAC author(s) will not have been posting here under one guise or another over the years.)

Time will tell, and - as the saying goes - the truth will surely out.

Meanwhile, hope you're doing fine, Joy. Moley or I will give you another bell one of these fine days.... Nige

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Date: Mon, Nov 05, 2001 at 16:13:01 (EST)
From: Richard
Email: richard@rogers-graphics.com
To: Nigel
Subject: Right you are, Nigel
Message:
Better luck next time Nigel. I've been a non-entity here for at least a couple of months and when I posted more regularly, I encouraged civility. (At least that's what Francesca tells me.) So my being placed on the docket is illogical. Plus the list of "charges" against everyone is bizarre fiction. As to inclusion / exclusion, this group of zealots must have been bugged about the forum and EPO for quite awhile and compiled the list sometime in the past.

If there are any old acquaintances involved with the new site or otherwise concerned about me, I offer my email address for an open, private and civil conversation. I no longer follow M as I did but also have nothing to hide.

Richard

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Date: Mon, Nov 05, 2001 at 04:43:01 (EST)
From: JohnT
Email: None
To: gerry
Subject: OOOOH! I made it!
Message:
Heh,

Who says the CACheads don't listen? They listed little old me this time! Let's hope more people come to read my UNHOLY TRINITY collection of verse about a false god and his dupes.

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Date: Mon, Nov 05, 2001 at 08:35:47 (EST)
From: Mickey the Pharisee
Email: None
To: JohnT
Subject: Re: OOOOH! I made it!
Message:
Gee, even though I rarely post here anymore, and when I do my post really don't seem to add much to the conversation, I have been added to The List. Why? Because I have been 'provoking' Bjørn, Son of Edward, the Most Wonderful Man in Norway, over on LIG. He claims that he has nothing to do with the CAC site, but I have suspected that he was involved due to his constant whining about ex-premie harrassment.

I am honored to be listed with the other terrible ex-premie people, and I now have a strong desire to convince those 'students' to find another 'teacher.'

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Date: Mon, Nov 05, 2001 at 18:32:24 (EST)
From: Brian Smith
Email: None
To: Mickey the Pharisee
Subject: Maybe I will make the grade !
Message:
I have had a recent jousting with Bjorn as well over on LG, lets see if I make the leaders board soon.
Until then......

Brian the nominee for best supporting member on F7

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Date: Mon, Nov 05, 2001 at 15:44:48 (EST)
From: Francesca
Email: None
To: Mickey the Pharisee
Subject: SPOT on, Mickey and Nige
Message:
I think that, at least on the 'childish' site (almost looks like a ransom note dunnit?) the people targeted seem to be a handpicked few in addition to the CAC maligned. Someone definitely has a vendetta going here.

There are several people who don't seem to understand what a cyberstalker is, legally, and don't seem to want to. They think that if they chant a mantra long enough, it will turn into the truth.

Good call, you two.

--f

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Date: Mon, Nov 05, 2001 at 08:43:46 (EST)
From: Katie
Email: None
To: Mickey the Pharisee
Subject: I was wondering how you got there, Mickey! [nt]
Message:
[nt]
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Date: Mon, Nov 05, 2001 at 13:24:01 (EST)
From: Mickey the Pharisee
Email: None
To: Katie
Subject: That site has the stink of Lutefisk! [nt]
Message:
[nt]
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Date: Mon, Nov 05, 2001 at 15:20:35 (EST)
From: Nigel
Email: None
To: Mickey the Pharisee
Subject: What the hell's a 'Lutefisk!'? [nt]
Message:
[nt]
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Date: Mon, Nov 05, 2001 at 16:11:47 (EST)
From: Mickey the Pharisee
Email: None
To: Nigel
Subject: Re: What the hell's a 'Lutefisk!'?
Message:
It's some terrible thing Scandinavians do to herring, involving lye and other noxious substances. Big with Norwegians.
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Date: Mon, Nov 05, 2001 at 18:45:45 (EST)
From: Katie
Email: None
To: Mickey the Pharisee
Subject: Unfair to Lutefisk
Message:
Lutefisk is the food of the gods, Mickey - shame on you. (Actually, I hate it, but I feel the need to stick up for it...) But, yeah, I know what you mean otherwise.
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Date: Mon, Nov 05, 2001 at 20:21:24 (EST)
From: Mickey the Pharisee
Email: None
To: Katie
Subject: It is a nasty food...
Message:
which Grandma Carlson makes you eat at Christmas.

Sashimi is the food of the gods, everyone knows that.

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Date: Tues, Nov 06, 2001 at 08:32:52 (EST)
From: Katie
Email: None
To: Mickey the Pharisee
Subject: OK, I agree about that :)
Message:
Sashimi and norimaki sushi...home cooking for me.
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Date: Mon, Nov 05, 2001 at 03:40:39 (EST)
From: salsa
Email: None
To: gerry
Subject: Oh, I get it now
Message:
So, because we want to be present in the net to give our opinion of OUR understanding of BigHeadFuckedUp knowledge we are harrassing/intimidating 'them'? Give me a big fricking break. This must be a joke.

For how long is this going to go on? Are we ex-premies going to wait to do 'something' until there are too many sites against us to even have believable voice? I think it is time to REALLY put together something good and contact the media... and lawyers.

I gave an idea a while back which deborah is aware of and I am all for it to work on it.

We were dupped, many of us for 2 and a half decades. What happened to many of us was no joke. Are we going to let these ignorants run all over us? We do have rights and that to express our discontent, our dislike, our disgust is by no mean hate, but a sincere desire to expose what we know to be a total farce. I think they have gone too far and we are stupid to let it stand.

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Date: Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 23:40:25 (EST)
From: michael donner
Email: None
To: gerry
Subject: Re: oh look! another CAC attack, charming
Message:
darn, i like to think of myself as retired, not unemployed.
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Date: Mon, Nov 05, 2001 at 20:03:15 (EST)
From: Brian Smith
Email: None
To: michael donner
Subject: Both you and Dettmers
Message:
What the deal here? Do these guys think that after leaving the 'good' job with the most holiest of employers you would be overqualified or uninterested in a mere worldly job or something?

I don't think they know much about you Michael

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Date: Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 22:44:30 (EST)
From: Fred Newman
Email: newperson@doubts.con
To: gerry
Subject: I thought the Majahara might be a good thing
Message:
Well I don't know. I've just been to my first program about this Maharaji and now I read that there is a hate site against him. I wonder why people are so against him. I wonder what Maharaji has done to have so many people against him.

And is he really an alcaholic and has he really killed someone and what are these illegal activities that Helen Vital has done and why are people afraid of her?

I don't know. Like I said, I went along to that program to check out this Maharaji fellow and I thought it might be a good thing to get into but now - I've got my doubts now, after reading about all the things that people have against him. You know what they say don't you - No smoke withought fire and all.

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Date: Mon, Nov 05, 2001 at 15:12:08 (EST)
From: Helen Vital
Email: nige@redcrow.demon.co.uk
To: Fred Newman
Subject: Are you for real?
Message:
If so, welcome..

I suggest you read the EPO site from top to bottom. (Especially the 'Journeys' section). Nobody here has anything to hide. As you will quickly discover, Margie-poohs has only too much he needs to keep secret.

I suggest you:

(1) Think long and carefully - out loud in front of cult-members, if possible. Observe their distressed facial expressions as they try to formulate acceptable replies..
(2) Run a f**king mile...
(3) Tell us about your experiences as a new recruit.

Cheers and Best,
Nige

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Date: Mon, Nov 05, 2001 at 21:21:18 (EST)
From: Fred Newman
Email: newperson@doubts.con
To: Helen Vital
Subject: Why are we here??
Message:
Sat I reflecting upon such mysteries. Being a distant relative of Alfred the Great and all.

I will narrate some of my experiences but the first six letters here should not be a problem for a fellow Brit.

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Date: Mon, Nov 05, 2001 at 01:20:15 (EST)
From: Barry
Email: None
To: Fred Newman
Subject: Re: I thought you might be a good thing
Message:
....after reading your post. Keep it up. You may find all you need is you after all.
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Date: Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 23:46:31 (EST)
From: michael donner
Email: None
To: Fred Newman
Subject: Re: I thought the Majahara might be a good thing
Message:
its great that they are advertising the ex-premie web site! and posting prominant names associated with it as well...names that might be recognized by some long standing followers...just stupid really. so thanks cac and others! keep the argument going.
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Date: Mon, Nov 05, 2001 at 03:20:32 (EST)
From: Pat:C)
Email: None
To: michael donner
Subject: Great response. Thanks MikeD.
Message:
You're always a gentleman. Cool, calm and collected. Thanks.
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Date: Mon, Nov 05, 2001 at 00:28:11 (EST)
From: Richard
Email: None
To: michael donner
Subject: Right on Donner and welcome to newcomers
Message:
There's the old PR saying. 'I don't care what you say about me as long as you spell my name right.' Not only did they spell the site's name right, they made a hyperlink directly to this site. And as you say, by listing many names, it lends even more credibility to this conversation.

And a special welcome to all you newcomers. This is not a hate site but a place where you may speak freely about your experiences with M & K whatever that may be. Although satsang per se is not appreciated, spirited conversation is encouraged.

Richard

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Date: Mon, Nov 05, 2001 at 03:33:20 (EST)
From: Pat:C)
Email: None
To: Richard
Subject: But isn't EPO satsang - the truth?
Message:
Rawat cooked his goose the day he stopped satsang because we would have ended up being like EPO arguing about whether there is a god or if it's neurological and there is no god and all the other good stuff we talk about hear. Of course it would have immediately put him out of business.

I was just talking to Chuck tonight and I said there's one way that Rawat can make things right. He can put his $50 million in escrow to be paid out to every name ever recorded in cult records pro rated to the amount given to the cult.

He could then say: ''Knowledge is some old yoga techs that I don't understand too well but, if you enjoy it, teach it to others anyway you want as I should have told you back when I stopped satsang. If you don't like it, fine. It's free country and you're entitled to rip it to shreds if you want. The guru-worship crap is primitive feudalistic mumbo-jumbo. I'm going to get a job as a pilot with Afghan Airlines (or whoever will take me) and allow my salary to be garnished to repay the balance of the 50 mil.''

That direct link to EPO almost makes me think that we are dealing with some people who are several sandwichs short of a lunchbox. I, for one, will be forwarding the cult anti-ex site to every premie in my address book and I urge all other exes to do so too. It's not as insulting as mailing them the url to EPO only. ;)

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Date: Mon, Nov 05, 2001 at 04:02:57 (EST)
From: FYI
Email: None
To: Pat:C)
Subject: EPO and FBI links
Message:
Those links are bogus....if you click on them, you get a dialogue asking for a login password, both on the EPO link and FBI link.

I find it ironic that the site's name is Halt Abuse Online which is exactly what they're NOT doing. This is a dangerous game they are playing and it doesn't bode well for them to partake in such ill-conceived activities. Can you say 'boomerang'?

It also says a lot about Maharaji and the likes of those who deign to 'protect' him.

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Date: Mon, Nov 05, 2001 at 17:09:33 (EST)
From: Deborah
Email: None
To: FYI
Subject: Re: EPO and FBI links
Message:

It also says a lot about Maharaji and the likes of those who deign to 'protect' him.

They don't have a conscience. Too entrenched in cult-think.

How could any one mentally process the idea that they love Maharaji and hate Rawat? Weird, eh?

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Date: Tues, Nov 06, 2001 at 10:38:37 (EST)
From: Cynthia
Email: None
To: Deborah
Subject: Hi Deborah....
Message:
Deb, you said:

How could any one mentally process the idea that they love Maharaji and hate Rawat? Weird, eh?

It's not only weird, it's true. For a premie to dissociate to that extent is a sign that the person has serious dissociative/emotional problems. I feel sorry for that premie. It's a good example of the deeply engrained mind-fuck by the the Urug of the Universe.

Maharaji is such a freaking liar, and those who are close to him now seem extra eager to break the law. We shall see....

Best,
Cynthia

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Date: Tues, Nov 06, 2001 at 19:41:47 (EST)
From: Deborah
Email: None
To: Cynthia
Subject: Re: Hi Cynthia....
Message:
Yes, Cynthia, it's hard for me to relate to that because the reciprical is what happened to me.

I never heard bad stuff (yes, I heard that he ate meat, drank cognac, smoked pot) but than, so did I? soooo, you see that fit in my reality box.

But being mean, abusive, philandering, sexually exploitive, and outright deceitful, shit that's another. I'm not being righteous here, I am awestricken by the difference. But then, I was a dozen years physically removed from Maha and the cult.

And everyone sees just a small limited (except PAMS like MD's) point of view of Maha so the mind has time intervals to process it into convenient packets. Gee, the whole thing is disturbing.

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Date: Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 23:56:42 (EST)
From: Deborah
Email: None
To: michael donner
Subject: Good on you Mike
Message:
There is a new person on the forum today who I know from Miami. He posted as DV. It seems like he arrived just in time to witness this shit.

By the sounds of it, it made on a good impression on his curiousity.

Your input is uplifting.

Take care you unemployed bum })

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Date: Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 23:33:47 (EST)
From: Deborah
Email: None
To: Fred Newman
Subject: Oh really now!
Message:
new person named Newman. Give me a break.
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Date: Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 22:15:53 (EST)
From: Richard
Email: richard@rogers-graphics.com
To: gerry
Subject: Don't tell them they're not free
Message:
'Don't tell them they're not free or they'll go about killin' and maimin' just to prove how free they are.'
- George the Lawyer
(Jack Nicholson's Character in Easy Rider on his final night)

Somehow that quote just sprung to mind. Funny how today I was having an honest and open conversation with another former follower. He was asking didn't I have a good time with M & K back then. I said yes it was wonderful but M's lack of personal responsibility going forward and the revisionism has caused me to lose respect for what I once held dear. I also told him I hold no animosity towards M and I'm not bitter about the past. Even though he hasn't practiced K for years, his response sounded familiar. It was of the it's-all-lila variety. You know, 'the guru is supposed to blow the devotee's mind to help them grow'. That's a quaint argument but it doesn't hold up to the light of day. I know the argument well because I used it for years to justify the cognitive dissonance I felt around M & K. We concluded the chat amicably as always. I have absolutely zero investment in what he or anyone else thinks or believes but I'm glad we had the chance to compare notes in open conversation. Try doing that at a video event and see how far the conversation gets.

And then to see my name listed like one of McCarthy's victims or a Taliban most wanted. Halt Online Abuse is a totally fear-based creation, obviously. I'm sure that back in my days of 'understanding' I may have been just as zealous to protect my belief system but today I only feel sadness for people who think they are serving their master by those actions. Even if they were able to silence the conversation about M & K, they won't stop people from thinking for themselves. 'The truth shall set you free' also springs to mind.

By the way. If any of the originators or fans of Halt Online Abuse who know or knew me want to know what I really think, email me. I no longer follow M but I'm willing to chat if you are.

Richard

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Date: Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 22:08:02 (EST)
From: stonor
Email: None
To: gerry
Subject: Re: oh look! another site
Message:
frm a google search on Salam, I got this:

http://www.angelfire.com/co4/sos/toc.htm
[ 'angel fire' ]

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Date: Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 22:29:15 (EST)
From: Stonor
Email: None
To: stonor
Subject: 4 independent hate sites. (nt)
Message:
[nt]
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Date: Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 23:42:11 (EST)
From: Deborah
Email: None
To: Stonor
Subject: Good work
Message:
give me an email. There's gonna be some shit going down baby? And I want you in on it. We could probably use your help.

love,

Deb

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Date: Mon, Nov 05, 2001 at 06:40:45 (EST)
From: Stonor
Email: None
To: Deborah
Subject: CAC didn't come up ...
Message:
on searches of these people's names. As G pointed out these sick sites pop up at the top of searches on these people's names ... I just tried another search engine. When I first came here I was shocked by one premie's behaviour, but I would never have expected that these guru groupies were totally insane liars for their 'master'.

Love,

Anna

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Date: Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 21:16:58 (EST)
From: G
Email: None
To: gerry
Subject: another CAC attack
Message:
This hate site, http://user.netomia.com/HaltOnLineABuse/,
has a list of alleged 'vicious activities' that seems
slanderous.

A few ex-premies' names are listed in the meta keywords at
the right2hate.webhop.net web site (do a view source to
see them). There seems to be a disproportionate number
of them, which suggests that premies are primarily behind
this hate site. Whoever did this site is using a
redirection service (see www.webhop.net) to hide their
identity. And they complain about ex-premies
'hiding behind anonymity', which many don't do anyway.

With this 'right 2 hate' site, they are trying to make
it seem that www.ex-premie.org is part of group of
hate sites, which includes neo-nazis, that put together
this site. What a low-down dirty tactic, but rather
transparent.

The people behind www.pagerealm.com/csit use
www.pagerealm.com, which provides free web space.

Regarding the SOS and new CAC sites, some ex-premies'
names (as search keywords) result in those sites
coming up in an AltaVista search.

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Date: Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 21:30:39 (EST)
From: gerry
Email: None
To: G
Subject: Oh i know
Message:
If I search my name, up pops the cacWeasel. I don't care but others have serious concerns for which the perpetrators had better start preparing.

Anyone who bothers to look sees a Scientology type attack by Elan Vital. This is just the kind of development my contact in the media said she needed before any interest in a story could be generated. Oh yeah.

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Date: Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 21:39:43 (EST)
From: Deborah
Email: None
To: gerry
Subject: Re: Oh i know
Message:
Can we talk media? Please email at your earliest convenience. I'm going out for a bite to eat and study for my Russian film class but I'll BE BACK.

Thanks.

Judas the Apostate

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Date: Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 21:25:01 (EST)
From: Deborah
Email: None
To: G
Subject: O course it's premies
Message:
Hi G,

Yes, we know it's premies trying to look official but of course it's not. This site came up in AUGUST.

We got a tip that MAHA was conducting a JIHAD and that we would find out really soon how he was retaliating for us exposing his criminal lifestyle and FRAUD cult.

MAHA is in the same mindset as bin LADEN. Isn't that sick? Premies must be so proud of their master, to be emulating the World's top terrorist. Talk about bliss.

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Date: Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 20:35:05 (EST)
From: Zelda
Email: None
To: gerry
Subject: Re: oh look! Bjorn grammar
Message:
'If someone you know is harassed by

ex-premie.org, contact immediately

the FBI's hate crime unit'

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Date: Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 21:01:29 (EST)
From: Deborah
Email: None
To: Zelda
Subject: Re: oh look! Bjorn grammar
Message:
Good one Zelda. Yup, although Bjorn also has aliases. He's used aliases for a long time. He's probably that star twit***** freak himself. sounds like him.
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Date: Mon, Nov 05, 2001 at 12:09:50 (EST)
From: Nigel
Email: nigel@redcrow.demon.co.uk
To: Deborah
Subject: **** is ****...
Message:
Hi Deb - if you try posting anything about 'D - J - U - R - O' (without the hyphens), it gets changed to '****'. Gerry must have set the forum bad-language filters to screen for Dj - uro's name.

And **** is certainly not Bjorn, even though the inarticulate styles are sometimes comparible.

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Date: Mon, Nov 05, 2001 at 16:10:43 (EST)
From: Deborah
Email: None
To: Nigel
Subject: Thanks Nige
Message:
Doesn't John Mc's post just give your heart a warm glow?

Did you think he was real? I did?

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Date: Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 22:34:05 (EST)
From: Zelda
Email: None
To: Deborah
Subject: Re: oh look! Bjorn grammar
Message:
Deborah.
ja.
they wouldnt let him write the list though. It lacks his fawning isipidness.
Kind of pidgen english untill he want to act staunch and then its uraih heepness to win the day.

even marji must wince

hey you guys- he must be on your roledex. Find him . caahnt you get him some arghya or sumpin?

shay swap ya around ya

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Date: Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 20:15:56 (EST)
From: JHB
Email: None
To: gerry
Subject: CAC is back as well
Message:
This one's in Florida:-

DIALTONE INTERNET (NETBLK-DIALTONE-136)
4101 SW 47TH AVENUE, SUITE 101-104
FT. LAUDERDALE, FL 33314
US

Netname: DIALTONE-136
Netblock: 12.26.136.0 - 12.26.139.255
Maintainer: DTON

Coordinator:
Comeau, John (JC1133-ARIN) john@dialtoneinternet.net
954-450-6123

Record last updated on 07-May-2001.
Database last updated on 4-Nov-2001 02:23:36 EDT.

The ARIN Registration Services Host contains ONLY Internet
Network Information: Networks, ASN's, and related POC's.
Please use the whois server at rs.internic.net for DOMAIN related
Information and whois.nic.mil for NIPRNET Information.

**complete**
[ CAC ]

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Date: Mon, Nov 05, 2001 at 06:03:58 (EST)
From: bill
Email: None
To: JHB
Subject: JHB comments on mitch ditkoff
Message:
Mitch admits that he was mistaken in the way he viewed Maharaji as someone special, and for a while, he feels nothing special towards him. He then considers viewing Maharaji as nothing special, but changes his mind and comes up with another way to view Maharaji as something special. Now Mitch admits he was wrong the first time, but believes he is right the second time. He does not examine the possibility he was right when he considered Maharaji as nothing special.

John

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Date: Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 20:20:44 (EST)
From: JHB
Email: None
To: JHB
Subject: CAC aka SOS is also here
Message:
This appears to be CAC renamed - in Waltham, MA:-

Lycos, Inc. (NETBLK-NETBLK-LYCOS-1)
400-2 Totten Pond Road
Waltham, MA 02451
US

Netname: NETBLK-LYCOS-1
Netblock: 209.202.192.0 - 209.202.255.255

Coordinator:
Yelsangikar, Vish (VY7-ARIN) vish@lycos.com
650-428-5241 (FAX) 650-428-5111

Domain System inverse mapping provided by:

BOS-NS1.BOS.LYCOS.COM 209.67.228.39
SJC-NS1.SJC.LYCOS.COM 206.79.171.39
BOS-NS2.BOS.LYCOS.COM 209.67.228.40
SJC-NS2.SJC.LYCOS.COM 206.79.171.40

Record last updated on 30-Aug-2000.
Database last updated on 4-Nov-2001 02:23:36 EDT.

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Network Information: Networks, ASN's, and related POC's.
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[ CAC in disguise ]

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Date: Mon, Nov 05, 2001 at 03:48:37 (EST)
From: salsa
Email: None
To: JHB
Subject: CAC is back?????? NT
Message:
ohhhhhhhhhh
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Date: Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 20:12:15 (EST)
From: JHB
Email: None
To: gerry
Subject: From San Antonio
Message:
Here's where the ip address points:-

Fibrcom (NETBLK-FIBRNET3)
70 NE Loop 410, Suite 900
San Antonio, TX 78216
US

Netname: FIBRNET3
Netblock: 207.235.0.0 - 207.235.127.255
Maintainer: FIBR

Coordinator:
FIBR.net Domain Registrations (FND-ORG-ARIN) domain@FIBR.NET
210-524-5502
Fax- 210-524-5099

Domain System inverse mapping provided by:

RANGER.FIBRCOM.COM 204.17.217.13
MIDWAY.FIBR.NET 204.57.66.2

ADDRESSES WITHIN THIS BLOCK ARE NON-PORTABLE

Record last updated on 09-May-2001.
Database last updated on 4-Nov-2001 02:23:36 EDT.

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Date: Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 20:06:13 (EST)
From: Pat:C)
Email: None
To: gerry
Subject: Re: oh look! another CAC attack, charming
Message:
How did you find out about it, Gerry? Email? Save the IP#. Now this is the sort of conspiracy I can enjoy getting very theoretical about.
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Date: Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 20:05:21 (EST)
From: Suedoula
Email: None
To: gerry
Subject: Re: oh look! another CAC attack, charming
Message:
Wow! And I thought I had missed all the fun with the first round of slanderous CACroaches. I'm confused though -- after reading the site and the long list of things exes are being accused of, how does that make us the hateful ones? Those people must be very insecure. Somebody ought to tell them to meditate or something.

Best to all,
Susan

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Date: Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 20:09:51 (EST)
From: Pat:C)
Email: None
To: Suedoula
Subject: They think it's funny, Sue
Message:
I think they do this every time exes start saying how much happier they are out of the cult. They hate it that we have not turned into rotting vegetables and think that they can induce enough paranoia in exes to make turn them into compost.
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Date: Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 21:44:40 (EST)
From: Suedoula
Email: None
To: Pat:C)
Subject: I think it's sad and scary
Message:
Amazing -- don't they see that stuff like this just REEKS of their own paranoia? It reads as if a group of right wing conservative followers of the Rev. Jerry Fallwell wrote that dribble. I especially like the accusations against Jim defending those horrid criminals. Maybe they forgot that the The Bill of Rights established that persons accused of committing a crime have the right to be represented by lawyers.

Does it serve Rawat's purpose to be viewed as that narrow minded? And just who is cyberstalking who?

Best,
Susan

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Date: Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 21:14:17 (EST)
From: Deborah
Email: None
To: Pat:C)
Subject: I know what would be funny, Pat
Message:
Pat,

i have an idea. Check your email and we'll discuss it. Seriously.

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Date: Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 19:57:54 (EST)
From: Deborah
Email: None
To: gerry
Subject: Re: oh look! another CAC attack, charming
Message:
How come Roupell, Catweasel, Bjorn and other premie fucks didn't get on that list. hmmmmmmmm

don't crank your neck thinking about that one.

Gee, now I ask you, do we really need those cult freaks on this site.

I hate MAHA more every day for those nasty cultfucks like Roupell and Catweasel that suck his toes.

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Date: Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 19:33:18 (EST)
From: Barry
Email: None
To: gerry
Subject: I love the stupid log on shit?
Message:
Whats up with that? what if I did want to report a violation to this FBI page. How in the crap do you get a password? Wierd, and stupid I think.
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Date: Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 19:32:07 (EST)
From: JHB
Email: None
To: gerry
Subject: This must be an ex-premie site
Message:
Anybody unconnected with the cult reading this would come to the conclusion that Maharaji heads a cult.

Anyway, a correction. I've never been a beer exporter, and I no longer live in London. When I did live in London I imported beer, but my main profession was in computing. Where do I send the correction?

John.

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Date: Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 19:34:08 (EST)
From: Barry
Email: None
To: JHB
Subject: Re: This must be an ex-premie site
Message:
LOL LOL LOL LOL!
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Date: Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 19:29:38 (EST)
From: Pat:C)
Email: None
To: gerry
Subject: I guess the Cultweasels and Cacroaches...
Message:
...are very unhappy at their treatment here lately.

Congrats to all the new names on the list.

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Date: Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 19:17:45 (EST)
From: gerry
Email: None
To: gerry
Subject: There's more...
Message:
This is so silly. Ex-premie.org with the neo-nazis and the klan. Oh yeah!! Any informed outside observer would laugh his ass off at these pathetic attmepts.
[ Page Link ]
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Date: Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 19:26:59 (EST)
From: Informed outside observer
Email: None
To: gerry
Subject: I'm not laughing my ass off ...
Message:
it's pathetic (but everyone knows that). But what IS funny is that they think anyone besides a handful of people are reading it.

Anna

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Date: Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 19:21:48 (EST)
From: Barry
Email: None
To: gerry
Subject: Hey! shut up BOY!
Message:
Get back to picken that cotton. Ha ha ha ha ha ha !!!
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Date: Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 19:16:15 (EST)
From: Barry
Email: None
To: gerry
Subject: Damit! When am I gonna make the list!!
Message:
I've been working so hard too!
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Date: Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 19:19:45 (EST)
From: Barry
Email: None
To: Barry
Subject: Why does Heller make the top of the list?
Message:
I've been raising more shit than that pussy lately!
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Date: Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 19:30:19 (EST)
From: gerry
Email: None
To: Barry
Subject: Re: Why does Heller make the top of the list?
Message:
That's true, Bar and yer doin' a damn good job so keep plugging away and maybe you'll make the next review. But Jim's contributed over 5000 pages of stuff according to his greatest fan and publisher of the unabriged collection of James Heller, who I might add needs to be duly lauded here as stalward and catalistic enigmatic fireplug of the whole Ex-premie opposition to Rawat's scam and the current fallout. Well done, sir.
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Date: Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 19:36:29 (EST)
From: Barry
Email: None
To: gerry
Subject: Ya your right, gotta pay my dues...
Message:
before I stand beside the master.
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Date: Mon, Nov 05, 2001 at 07:24:00 (EST)
From: JohnT
Email: None
To: Barry
Subject: Whatcha gotta do
Message:
Try to argue premies out of their infantile solipsist delusions about Captain Prempal Rawat of Malibu, and show UTMOST disrespect for the fat fraud. He is a nasty parasite and deserves to be treated for what he is!

You can do it Barry! You can make the lists! You gotta believe in yourself, y'hear!!

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Date: Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 20:39:59 (EST)
From: Zelda
Email: None
To: Barry
Subject: Why dont they list bjorns rumor? [nt]
Message:
[nt]
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Date: Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 18:58:34 (EST)
From: Barry
Email: None
To: All
Subject: Also....
Message:
If anyone would like my previouse toons, well print em up, or save em in your special little folders. My tripod account is maxed, so I have to delete the stuff in order to make room for new toons! Dig? I'll comence the destruction of these this evening after din din. Dig? Bye bye!
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Date: Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 20:04:41 (EST)
From: Deborah
Email: None
To: Barry
Subject: Re: Also....
Message:
Bar, did you give them to Roger Drek. I'm printing them out for posterity. Funny shit, dude.

Maybe you can make a toon about CAC and the Weasel and Roupell as MAHA's whip boys or sumpthin. Let's have a good laugh on them.

Hate sight. Have you heard anyone more fucked up and hateful than Roupell and his deranged personas incl his pet Catweasel. Wouldn't that make a great cartoon.

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Date: Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 18:53:56 (EST)
From: Barry
Email: None
To: All
Subject: Guess what kids?
Message:
It's toon time again!!
[ http://acousticoutlaw.tripod.com/book.html ]
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Date: Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 22:44:01 (EST)
From: salsa
Email: None
To: Barry
Subject: ROFL
Message:
That is funny: Keep it up.())
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Date: Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 23:37:46 (EST)
From: Deborah
Email: None
To: salsa
Subject: Hey, email me :) [nt]
Message:
[nt]
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Date: Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 16:11:42 (EST)
From: From LG
Email: None
To: All
Subject: Ohhhhh gossip
Message:
Posted: Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 10:05:28 (EST)
Original: Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 08:47:12 (EST)
Posted by: Bjørn E Recipient: SC
Email Address: Not Provided
Browser Type: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.01; Windows 98)

Subject: What is going on at F7?
Message:

Thanks for sharing this. I really enjoyed your post and wish you sucsess with your new record.

Anyway the other day when I was that the 'anything goes' forum and then I by mistake clicked on the link to F7, Icame through the blocking. So I could read some posts. However after a few minutes, the blocking came on again. But I noticed they have started a fundraising campaign and a link to donate money. I found that interesting. In one way that might be a dangerous path to take. If they are making money on defamation and libel posts, that makes a big difference in the eyes of the law. Before they could somehow showel the responsibility to the posters, but when they are making money on a business that are dedicated to allow people to slander and thereby publish defamation posts, that is a total different story. And by deleting posts and blocking people, they are clearly taking the responsibility of editing. Pretty silly, if you ask me. Just my 2cents
Take care.

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Date: Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 16:24:56 (EST)
From: bill
Email: None
To: From LG
Subject: although he pales by comparison.....
Message:
Who is Kriyananda?

Judging form the evidence, including Kriyananda's own writings, Kriyananda probably has a serious sexual addiction, seems to also suffer from a narcissistic personality disorder with accompanying manifestations of persecution and grandeur complexes. And yet, to be seen as an authentic representative of his guru, Paramahansa Yogananda, Kriyananda has cultivated an exalted image of himself which he and his church have vigorously promoted over the last 30 years. Here is a man presuming to teach us about spiritual truths, but is himself living a lie. Here is a man who sets himself up as an example for us of inner freedom, who is himself a slave to his senses.

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Date: Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 16:15:10 (EST)
From: Deborah
Email: None
To: From LG
Subject: No Bjorn posts allowed
Message:
He's such a deranged psycho?
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Date: Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 19:31:02 (EST)
From: DV
Email: None
To: Deborah
Subject: Re: No Bjorn posts allowed
Message:
Hi. Are you perchance the same Debbie Rose that lived in Miami?. If so, we worked together at Spire audio Video!
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Date: Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 20:07:36 (EST)
From: Deborah
Email: None
To: DV
Subject: Yup, I remember you
Message:
How the fuck are YOu? Ha ha ha

Give your email, please. Hey DV, if you are worried about anomymity, then contack Gerry or JHB and they will be happy to forward your email, okay?

hope you're doing well, looking forward to talking to you.

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Date: Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 21:58:26 (EST)
From: DV
Email: None
To: Deborah
Subject: Awriite! Me contact SOON!
Message:
My anon is based upon my future infiltration opportunities!
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Date: Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 23:39:17 (EST)
From: Deborah
Email: None
To: DV
Subject: Right on!!!!! [nt]
Message:
[nt]
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Date: Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 17:09:57 (EST)
From: Zelda
Email: None
To: Deborah
Subject: WHAAT!!! Well I NEVER!
Message:
thats it for me. ex premies making MONEY out of these lawsuits! it is unthinkable and I want the perculators brought forward.

WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS
Did you exs start a private contribution club??? Did You???????
noone announced it on the forum did they?? If they did then I missed it. Please tell me when and where this was posted.
How can we attempt to expose maraji when within our own ranks there is such mindless stupid decisions as what Bjorn has exposed??

I am devastated by this news and utterly betrayed by exs hidden agendas.

for the love of god I hope this info doesnt get into the premies - they will have a field day.

I must go find maynard.
Z

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Date: Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 17:13:47 (EST)
From: Marianne
Email: MarianneDB@aol.com
To: Zelda
Subject: No Zelda, no way
Message:
That's Bjornspin. Contributions are welcome to underwrite the costs of the website. That's it.

Email me if you want.

Marianne

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Date: Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 18:24:31 (EST)
From: Deborah
Email: None
To: Marianne
Subject: Marianne, think it was sarcasm [nt]
Message:
[nt]
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Date: Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 17:39:25 (EST)
From: Stonor
Email: None
To: Marianne
Subject: Will do, Marianne ...
Message:
Don't have much to spare, but as a concerned citizen of the world who supports the efforts of this forum to help expose the prison of cults, I would like to contribute to the upkeep of this forum, and/or EPO, as I have in the past. Should I email you, Gerry, or JHB?

Thank you again to all those who have helped me to understand cultic thinking over the last couple of years, and have helped so many to escape from the clutches of lucrative megalomania.

Anna
(I recently ripped out one cult's advertisement from a local health food store - I read about it through a link at EPO ... a Canadian from Alberta! :(

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Date: Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 18:39:44 (EST)
From: JHB
Email: None
To: Stonor
Subject: Forum Donation Facility
Message:
Just to let you know that this donation facility has nothing to do with me or EPO.

John.

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Date: Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 19:07:16 (EST)
From: Stonor
Email: None
To: JHB
Subject: Thanks for the clarification, but ...
Message:
doesn't EPO also need to cover their expenses ... why don't you take the opportunity to mention it? How can you get funds to keep EPO up if there is no forum through which to solicit the required monies?

Anna

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Date: Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 20:09:11 (EST)
From: JHB
Email: None
To: Stonor
Subject: Re: Thanks for the clarification, but ...
Message:
Stonor,

I'm still considering whether to request money for EPO or not. The costs aren't that great, and it would be inconvenient for contributors not in the UK or Latvia to get the money to me. So thanks for the concern, and if I need to ask, I certainly will!

John.

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Date: Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 17:43:33 (EST)
From: Marianne
Email: None
To: Stonor
Subject: Hey there Stonor
Message:
Email Gerry about this.

Thanks for your thanks. You are a valued contributor.

Hope all is well with you.

Marianne

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Date: Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 17:50:26 (EST)
From: Stonor
Email: None
To: Marianne
Subject: Hey there Marianne!
Message:
Just emailed you, and will email Gerry with pleasure ... besides, I want to hear about Sophia, and the rest of his garden children ... ooops, going OT! :)

Love,

Anna

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Date: Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 14:06:13 (EST)
From: **** again
Email: None
To: All
Subject: Ashram
Message:
Is EPO a new tipe of ashram?
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Date: Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 15:24:24 (EST)
From: **** 123
Email: None
To: **** again
Subject: Re: Ashram
Message:
I'd put the photos of La-Ex on the wall.
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Date: Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 14:31:43 (EST)
From: Tim G
Email: None
To: **** again
Subject: Re: YES!
Message:
It's an acronym: Acquire Shocking Hearsay Regarding Arsehole Maharaji
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Date: Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 15:35:07 (EST)
From: Deborah
Email: None
To: Tim G
Subject: Ha ha ha ha ha ha })
Message:
That is soooooooo funny. You funny guy.
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Date: Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 19:02:00 (EST)
From: Barry
Email: None
To: Deborah
Subject: Oh! I see!........
Message:
So! There's another cock in the hen house is there? And I thought we had something special? Hmmmfff!

Harrrrrrrr! Hi Deb.

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Date: Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 01:53:24 (EST)
From: Hey PCT -
Email: None
To: All
Subject: Question for Ditkoff, Apnor, & Pals
Message:
Hey Mitch Ditkoff.... what is up with the guy Tony on your Idea Champions Web Site? - :

Ditkoff, Apnor, & Pals

I mean it states right in his Bio that 'Tony can also deliver personalcareer counseling for the occupationally challenged.'

Now my occupation is one in which I tell Idea Champions that they forgot a space between personal and career. I'm giving you this consultation free of charge.

Now please explain 'Occupationally challenged' Is this a resume service for Initiators, Mahatmas, Prem Pal Singh Rawat, and PAMS? Sure looks like it from Joan's bio!!!

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Date: Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 03:32:13 (EST)
From: Pat:C)
Email: None
To: Hey PCT -
Subject: Is Idea Champions........
Message:
....rehabilitation for former cult officials? Do they specialize in interview strategies and creative resume writing? Show you how to turn your iffy curriculum vitae (''1971-2001: cult member'') into something more acceptable?

1971 - 1983: DECA, Miami; helped to design and build an aircraft with special appointments. (Got serious permanent allergies from inhaling poisonous chemicals while doing unpaid slave labor on a jumbo jet for a Hindu guru.)

1884 - 1997: Taught self realization of personal potential for an educational association. (Travelled around showing some old yoga techniques to gullible guru-seekers now and then meanwhile doing nothing much more than dress to kill and take tennis lessons using the money of other cult members who lived in cult concentration camps called ashrams.)

1998 - present: Thousand Oaks; did public relations and fund-raising for a large charitable non-profit corporation that was experiencing a loss of income and a serious decline in membership. ((Did spin-control for a dying formerly profitable cult.)

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Date: Sat, Nov 03, 2001 at 23:36:16 (EST)
From: Silvia
Email: None
To: All
Subject: What about Holi?
Message:
Where you colored by 'LORD' maharaji?

I was just thinking of those days when we used to move around the city looking weird, with our bodies and clothes stained with colors and stree people would look at us and shake their heads... and we felt so, so special. ())Wait, is not a thing of the past. There is still Holi in India, isn't?

MAHARAJI SUCKS!

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Date: Sun, Nov 04, 2001 at 02:44:57 (EST)
From: Deborah
Email: None
To: Silvia
Subject: Re: What about Holi?
Message:
Hi Salsalita,

Forget about the street looks. I worked at DECA and the top executives including all the employees and slaves er, I mean service staff, would have rainbow stains all over their face, neck and hands and have to conduct with clients the next day. Try 'splaning that!

But, we were so culty that we didn't bother with social inconsistencies. Self-correcting absurdity.

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