Pat:C) -:- Why do Sicko Cacweasels post here and... -:- Wed, Nov 07, 2001 at 04:53:50 (EST)

__ Francesca ~) -:- **BEST, BEST, BEST of FORUM*** [nt] -:- Wed, Nov 07, 2001 at 13:14:21 (EST)

__ __ Pat:C) -:- Thanks, Francesca, but.... -:- Wed, Nov 07, 2001 at 14:57:08 (EST)

__ Jim -:- They've trivialized themselves immensely -:- Wed, Nov 07, 2001 at 12:05:20 (EST)

__ __ CW -:- Re: They've trivialized themselves immensely -:- Wed, Nov 07, 2001 at 16:02:12 (EST)

__ __ Pat:C) -:- But they are putting up a fight -:- Wed, Nov 07, 2001 at 14:21:06 (EST)

__ don -:- you may be surprised pat, but I like this post. -:- Wed, Nov 07, 2001 at 06:28:20 (EST)

__ don -:- Re: Why do Sicko Cacweasels post here and... -:- Wed, Nov 07, 2001 at 06:26:41 (EST)

__ Sir Dave }( -:- Correction -:- Wed, Nov 07, 2001 at 05:34:52 (EST)

__ __ CW -:- Correct Weight -:- Wed, Nov 07, 2001 at 05:55:52 (EST)

__ Tonette -:- That's all they have. -:- Wed, Nov 07, 2001 at 05:06:50 (EST)

__ __ Selene -:- repeating something over and over -:- Wed, Nov 07, 2001 at 10:10:39 (EST)

__ __ __ Cynthia -:- Hi Selene! -:- Wed, Nov 07, 2001 at 12:05:59 (EST)

__ __ __ __ Pat:C) -:- Smoking with Michael Nouri -:- Wed, Nov 07, 2001 at 14:17:14 (EST)

__ __ __ __ __ Selene -:- Re: Smoking with Michael Nouri -:- Wed, Nov 07, 2001 at 14:23:14 (EST)

__ __ __ __ __ __ Cynthia -:- No coatracks, my dear... -:- Wed, Nov 07, 2001 at 15:49:28 (EST)

__ __ __ __ __ __ __ Selene -:- haha I hope you are joking? -:- Wed, Nov 07, 2001 at 15:57:03 (EST)

__ __ __ __ __ __ Pat:C) -:- The god of the coatracks? LOL [nt] -:- Wed, Nov 07, 2001 at 14:34:52 (EST)

__ __ __ __ __ __ __ Brian Smith -:- Where is Rennie Davis when he is really needed -:- Wed, Nov 07, 2001 at 15:37:09 (EST)

__ __ __ __ Selene -:- wannabee snobs more likely -:- Wed, Nov 07, 2001 at 13:04:02 (EST)

__ __ __ __ __ Andrea Eriksonn -:- Ladies, please! You make is sound like... -:- Wed, Nov 07, 2001 at 14:22:59 (EST)

__ __ __ __ __ __ Brother Hal N. Back -:- One question, Andrea -:- Wed, Nov 07, 2001 at 16:18:55 (EST)

__ __ __ __ __ __ Selene -:- it's not the clothes its the shopping -:- Wed, Nov 07, 2001 at 14:28:30 (EST)

__ __ CW -:- Oh ,I dunno........ -:- Wed, Nov 07, 2001 at 06:04:21 (EST)

__ __ Pat:C) -:- You got it, Tonette. -:- Wed, Nov 07, 2001 at 05:25:56 (EST)

__ __ __ CW -:- Re: You got it, Tonette. -:- Wed, Nov 07, 2001 at 06:10:27 (EST)

__ __ __ __ Pat:C) -:- You prove my point in spades, Cacweasel [nt] -:- Wed, Nov 07, 2001 at 13:35:53 (EST)

Date: Wed, Nov 07, 2001 at 04:53:50 (EST)
From: Pat:C)
Email: None
To: All
Subject: Why do Sicko Cacweasels post here and...
Message:

....and make sites like CAC?

Sicko Cultweasels are acting from very selfish motives. They can be as phony and fake and deceitful as they wish because their real audience is the EV honchos and Rev Rawat. They are giving their cult pals a good laugh at our expense. They really don't care what we or the naive church ladies think about their antisocial antics.

IN 1976 through a new friend I made in London, I fell in with a certain class of premie whom I never known before. Many were wealthy or ambitious or both, actors, musicians, trust fund slummers, drug dealers, one high-class whore and two ''models.'' Most of them knew Rawat personally at least enough to be invited to private parties.

I thought they were fun and amusing and so different from the church ladies of the ''cult'' whom I detested. These were the ''beautiful people'' of the cult, the jetset. I heard all the gossip about Rawat's boozing, drunk driving, drug taking and meat-eating. It was heady stuff.

(At that time my then wife had left M. I thought she could be attracted back in if she met these premies as she was a ballet dancer and would fit in with the show-biz people. Her dry Scottish take on them: ''They're about as exciting as cold custard.'' It took me a little longer to figure that out. Not until I moved to the hotbed of the jetset, Malibu, in 1978 did I see through them. Mostly I did not have the money to keep up with them and money is what this class of premie is all about.)

This class of premie would not be seen dead in an ashram, never did service and hardly ever attended satsang but they went to every single festival in every different country where they would parade around in the latest fashions and they always seem to have lots of money and cocaine.

These are the ones who can afford to travel to Amaroo and India. They all know each other no matter where they live and always have large apres M parties. I've mentioned some of its members a couple of times. I won't now so that I can say that I have never ever met a more superficial, phony, insincere, immoral and selfish bunch of people in my life.

The Sicko Cacweasels belong to this class. They are posting for each other. They honestly don't care if they alienate the naive and sincere church ladies of the cult by their vicious and antisocial behavior. In fact they have nothing but scorn for the church ladies and will tell you straight out that the church ladies created the cult not M. They would be glad to see the church ladies scram and leave M to them.

They are doing us a great service because they are chasing away from the cult any premie who reads here who has a conscience and a sense of decency and goodness and honesty. Let them piss on the forum. You don't have to smell their droppings but any interested questioning premie who tries to understand the forum will read and see what the elite hard-core cult-members are really like.

The church ladies are not the cult. They simply belong to a nice religion. The jetset is the real cult. In fact they created the cult around M. In fact they created the Rawat we know today. These phonies are the sort of people he likes and socializes with. He followed in their footsteps rather than the other way around. Of course they don't see that. But why should they? It is the blind leading the blind.

Suchabanana was not too far off when he substituted Tony Robbins (the get-rich-quick guru) for Rev Rawat in his recent parody. The cult really is now mostly for the rich and is all about money. (Erika: ""I'm so smug and successful."" SC: ""I just bought another guitar and I'm rich and uncouth."" Catweasel: ""I just made $6,000 for $1 on the horse races."" Yes, he really did say that on AG today.) The hardcore cultists are emulating Rawat in his greed and superficial consumerism.

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Date: Wed, Nov 07, 2001 at 13:14:21 (EST)
From: Francesca ~)
Email: None
To: Pat:C)
Subject: **BEST, BEST, BEST of FORUM*** [nt]
Message:

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Date: Wed, Nov 07, 2001 at 14:57:08 (EST)
From: Pat:C)
Email: None
To: Francesca ~)
Subject: Thanks, Francesca, but....
Message:

Maybe you should give me a prize for stupidity instead. I don't know how I missed this connection before. It was the coatrack cultweasels who visited my restaurant with the local EV honchos that finally made me vomit up the cult poison.

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Date: Wed, Nov 07, 2001 at 12:05:20 (EST)
From: Jim
Email: None
To: Pat:C)
Subject: They've trivialized themselves immensely
Message:

Notice how they don't even bother to take on anything substantive? Like John M's posts, for instance. Like Joe's recent deconstruction (destruction?) exercises. These fools don't even bother anymore. They know the jig's up. They're just being poor losers.

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Date: Wed, Nov 07, 2001 at 16:02:12 (EST)
From: CW
Email: None
To: Jim
Subject: Re: They've trivialized themselves immensely
Message:

We all know John. We'll let his words stand. They speak for themselves. Delusion. It's a strange condition.

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Date: Wed, Nov 07, 2001 at 14:21:06 (EST)
From: Pat:C)
Email: None
To: Jim
Subject: But they are putting up a fight
Message:

Hissing and scratching like cornered weasels, spiteful, mean and full of hatred. These last hardcore CACweasel cult fanatics are the real Hate Club.

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Date: Wed, Nov 07, 2001 at 06:28:20 (EST)
From: don
Email: None
To: Pat:C)
Subject: you may be surprised pat, but I like this post.
Message:

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Date: Wed, Nov 07, 2001 at 06:26:41 (EST)
From: don
Email: None
To: Pat:C)
Subject: Re: Why do Sicko Cacweasels post here and...
Message:

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Date: Wed, Nov 07, 2001 at 05:34:52 (EST)
From: Sir Dave }(
Email: None
To: Pat:C)
Subject: Correction
Message:

CW made £6,000 in his dreams. I mean, ''If I had put a dollar on that bet etc etc''. It's what all gamblers say. I know, I've been one and once lost £11,000 in one bet. But if it had won...

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Date: Wed, Nov 07, 2001 at 05:55:52 (EST)
From: CW
Email: None
To: Sir Dave }(
Subject: Correct Weight
Message:

Dave ,so unkind!!I was actually castigating you for not advising me on the form of the horses I enquired about ,two of them subsequently saluting the judge. I asked about 4 horses. Only 24 Horses in the race. My comment was on what excellent value the bet represented. The Melbourne Cup holds an absolutely mammoth pool. When was the last time 'the Jetsetter's' invested $1 as a serious gamble?Jesus Pat you are unbelievably twisted.What a load of unadulterated pap, all of it!
A good gambler never discusses their winnings.

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Date: Wed, Nov 07, 2001 at 05:06:50 (EST)
From: Tonette
Email: None
To: Pat:C)
Subject: That's all they have.
Message:

This is all they have. No real talent or goals or meaningful relationships. Just the jet set phony world of belonging in the cult. The sad thing is they think that they are at the top of their game! What game? Is the cult worth anything? Nope.
Maharaji is bullshit.
His master speal is bullshit!
And these unfortunate people don't even realize it.
Hey, Pat did I tell you I realized Knowledge??????? Yes, indeed.
Guess what, thinking that the hum of your nervous system is God, is bullshit!
So Catweasel and others come here for attention mainly and come here to justify their very beliefs. See, in defending their cult through their prose, they can continually reinforce their delusions. Repeat something over and over and to most people it can become true.

Take care, Tonette

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Date: Wed, Nov 07, 2001 at 10:10:39 (EST)
From: Selene
Email: None
To: Tonette
Subject: repeating something over and over
Message:

my friend and I were just talking about someone we knew giving a version of something that happened over and over, to the point where she could believe it was true. His exact words were 'it's the oldest trick in the book, convince enough people and it becomes the truth'

I've seen these types at the googoo get-togethers. Kind of an ageing iggy pop look to the men and the women are rail thin with these very expensive clothes hanging off em. Last time they were clustered outside smoking together and fauning over michael Nouri.
They don't seem to realize that most people could care less about any of it. Even the church ladies don't really notice them.
I was studying them because I knew my days were numbered and they were fascinating, but not for the reasons they thought. More like an interesting phenomenon. Some of those I knew were much more idealistic and sincere in the beginning.
On one of my last attendences my travel companion and I were asked to one of those parties. I thought he was going to die from the excitement. I left him in LA, his choice, he would rather have hassled with getting home on a standby or whatever than miss that party.

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Date: Wed, Nov 07, 2001 at 12:05:59 (EST)
From: Cynthia
Email: None
To: Selene
Subject: Hi Selene!
Message:

How are you?

I always hated those rail thin, shee-shee-shaa-shaa, nose up in the air rich PAMs too. They made me so sick, thinking they were something special, with all their Rodeo Drive getups, looking down their noses at us ashram premies who were in thread bare clothes. Snobs! All of them...

Hope you're doing well,
Love,
Cynthia

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Date: Wed, Nov 07, 2001 at 14:17:14 (EST)
From: Pat:C)
Email: None
To: Cynthia
Subject: Smoking with Michael Nouri
Message:

Sounds like a good title for one of the cult video magazine broadcasts like ''Connections.'' They could also have ''Gossiping with Charanand.''

The ultra-thin xray premies in designer clothes have become the only real regulars at M revivalist meetings. After dropping out of premiedom in the early 80s I went to a few events in the 90s. I noticed that a lot of the old faces (the hippies and peons) were not around anymore but the jetset was still there in full force looking more and more like skeletons or coatracks.

Of course they never did any service (that was for the poor deluded church mice er ladies) and hung around yakking and smoking with the EV stars until just before the event when they all rushed in a sat in the front seats for which they had paid very well.

They took what many of us thought was a continuation of the love and peace revolution and turned it into an upscale and chic Tony Robbins movement. Did they follow Rawat's example or did he follow theirs? All I can say is that they deserve each other.

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Date: Wed, Nov 07, 2001 at 14:23:14 (EST)
From: Selene
Email: None
To: Pat:C)
Subject: Re: Smoking with Michael Nouri
Message:

Did they follow Rawat's example or did he follow theirs? All I
can say is that they deserve each other.

To paraphrase Abby Hoffman
'If he is god he is the god his coatracks deserve'

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Date: Wed, Nov 07, 2001 at 15:49:28 (EST)
From: Cynthia
Email: None
To: Selene
Subject: No coatracks, my dear...
Message:

He has premie slaves who whisk those capes, shawls, furs, (petite wraps of all colors and fabrics) into the guest closet which, btw, is 1,500 sq. feet. Lined in cedar, it has a mini-bar so those ulra-neurotic SPAMS can have a quick nipper before sucking on the holi toes. A special ''Enjoying Life'' refreshment table complete with boogers from his plate of prassad is provided.

And get this: a gold plated toilet, preserved from the B707, sits in an ebony/marble tiled 'powder room' to be used as a trophy for all those big donors who laugh as they do about those inferior working, tackily dressed premies.

And they have the nerve to cyberstalk!

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Date: Wed, Nov 07, 2001 at 15:57:03 (EST)
From: Selene
Email: None
To: Cynthia
Subject: haha I hope you are joking?
Message:

But would not be at all surprised if you are not.
so, uh, is there a place like this? Do I want to know, I just ate.

Well if it's true I'm glad they are being resourceful and recycling the gold toilet.

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Date: Wed, Nov 07, 2001 at 14:34:52 (EST)
From: Pat:C)
Email: None
To: Selene
Subject: The god of the coatracks? LOL [nt]
Message:

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Date: Wed, Nov 07, 2001 at 15:37:09 (EST)
From: Brian Smith
Email: None
To: Pat:C)
Subject: Where is Rennie Davis when he is really needed
Message:

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Date: Wed, Nov 07, 2001 at 13:04:02 (EST)
From: Selene
Email: None
To: Cynthia
Subject: wannabee snobs more likely
Message:

Talk about your big fish in a little pond syndrome. hmm.. missed the rodeo getups. The ones in the late nineties had the $500 an aritcle from a boutique hippie grunge look.
I'm ok, very busy with work and family.
hope all is well for you too.

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Date: Wed, Nov 07, 2001 at 14:22:59 (EST)
From: Andrea Eriksonn
Email: None
To: Selene
Subject: Ladies, please! You make is sound like...
Message:

... a CRIME to be well-dressed and enjoying life. If Maharaji, my wonderful TEACHER, not cult-leader, has taught me anything, it is not to go without the good things in life. He is such a good role model for us all. If some of premies, I mean, the students of Maharaji were too thick so figure it out, it's hardly the fault of successful, normal, not-in-a-cult premies.

But I don't mean to sound harsh (because I am nice and do care), and certainly those grungy Indian Mahatma's are much to blame, with their poverty conciousness, which is why Maharaji fired them all and replaced them with DVDs.

And my husband, Scotch, and I, have always believed in giving a leg up to students of Maharaji who are a few sandwhiches short of a picnic. Why just the other day, I was thinking, where is that Paulinie Premie person? It's getting cold with winter comming, and she lives in her car and must be running out of blood and extra organs to sell to get money to attend The Teacher's speaking events.

It just so happens that Scotch and I live on a charming 10 acre antebellum estate, that still has a functioning slave cabin on the premises. I'm just SURE that Pauline would feel at home there, she could burn sticks in the woodstove to keep warm after doing our yardwork for us, and do our laundry in exchange for food. She could be trained to help at local video events, and if she shows promise, and if she keeps her hands clean, Themla might even consider showing her how to straighen some white table cloths.

We really are only too happy to help fellow students of Maharaji. But you ex-students, you really are just too naughty. I suggest you read the articles on my website: ''Please Consider This, not THAT''. Read them over and over and over again, until you finally come to your senses and come back to The Teacher. Do that, or be CACked, which unfortunately for you, you richly deserve. Not that I have anything to do with CAC sites, (I'm really too nice to do that), but just as the sun is certain to set every day, foolish ex-students of The Master-Teacher must expect to get their butts kicked. It's not MY fault, it's just nature taking it's course. Entertain doubt, take the consequeces. You almost tricked me into going there, but I know better than THAT now. If you only ever read the GOOD websites about Maharaji, you wouldn't be so confused.

Anyway, enough time wasted on you lot. Read my website, or suffer, your choice. I have to take the dog to the vet, not yell at some people in my office who don't have Knowledge, and have lunch with a fellow student of Maharaji, while we probably won't even mention Maharaji's name because we are NOT in a cult!

Not Confused,

- Andrea Eriksonn,

NEVER in a cult, and kindly understanding that you are evnvious and bitter ex-students who need a good talking-too, but are far too dangerous to talk with.

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Date: Wed, Nov 07, 2001 at 16:18:55 (EST)
From: Brother Hal N. Back
Email: None
To: Andrea Eriksonn
Subject: One question, Andrea
Message:

What are you wearing right now?

Excuse my forward question but do have mercy on this lonely old soul. All your talk of going in and out of closets and slinky clothes has caused 'that feeling' to arise in 'that place', if you catch my meaning. I can also make myself available for confession should there be anything bothering you, say a late night meeting with The Speaker' in said closet.

Yours in perpetuity,
Brother Hal N. Back
Church of the Ultimate Assumption
(and dear friend of Postie)

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Date: Wed, Nov 07, 2001 at 14:28:30 (EST)
From: Selene
Email: None
To: Andrea Eriksonn
Subject: it's not the clothes its the shopping
Message:

I need servants to shop for me.
And well.. their choice of clothes is kinda funny. Only at an M event.
You really *are* so nice. Thank you for not talking to me.

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Date: Wed, Nov 07, 2001 at 06:04:21 (EST)
From: CW
Email: None
To: Tonette
Subject: Oh ,I dunno........
Message:

I hope that pleases you Tonnette.That's exactly why I come here. Actually I'm just like a dung beetle.
Try and imagine me driving my BMW Series 5. My six spiny arms clutching the steering wheel whilst I chew my cud and contemplate more takeaway from this great site.My incredible panoramic eyes scanning 360 degrees for fresh food!!
When I think of you Tonnette, I see this chrsytalline vision of the Goddess Dianna waving seductively to me from the altar of a run down Baptist Church. Your long hair(Blonde?) flutters dangerously , exposing your God-like inner thighs. I gaze into that mandala of divine pleasure..... and wake up Drunk on the floor....Damn Damn Damn!!

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Date: Wed, Nov 07, 2001 at 05:25:56 (EST)
From: Pat:C)
Email: None
To: Tonette
Subject: You got it, Tonette.
Message:

You said: ''So Catweasel and others come here for attention mainly and come here to justify their very beliefs. See, in defending their cult through their prose, they can continually reinforce their delusions. Repeat something over and over and to most people it can become true.''

Precisely and to reinforce the belief system that they share with their invisible (to us) audience of other cynical thoroughly modern PWKs. No morals or sense of belongng to the human race, elitist, smug and dangerously deluded.

Hey, guys, no wonder you're all alcoholics. But booze really is no substitute for a good night's natural sleep with a clean conscience.

You take care too, Tonette. Now I must go to bed.

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Date: Wed, Nov 07, 2001 at 06:10:27 (EST)
From: CW
Email: None
To: Pat:C)
Subject: Re: You got it, Tonette.
Message:

Funnily enough Pat you must be projecting. I dont drink much, I'm far too busy. I come here to view the greatest travesty of sensibility available on line.And group think, and cultish behavior.Two opponents!! Think yourself lucky . I reckon the sun must be shining right up your back passage Pat. Take a seat,the rest of us have to get some sleep.

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Date: Wed, Nov 07, 2001 at 13:35:53 (EST)
From: Pat:C)
Email: None
To: CW
Subject: You prove my point in spades, Cacweasel [nt]
Message:

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